Comments on: 501(c)(3)? Can Casey sell out? http://www.opencouchsurfing.org/2007/08/30/501c3-can-casey-sell-out/ The campaign for a truly open CouchSurfing organisation Thu, 04 Mar 2010 14:44:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Niels Smit http://www.opencouchsurfing.org/2007/08/30/501c3-can-casey-sell-out/comment-page-1/#comment-864 Niels Smit Thu, 06 Sep 2007 13:52:02 +0000 http://www.opencouchsurfing.org/2007/08/30/501c3-can-casey-sell-out/#comment-864 Because a façade it is, as long as an irrevocable asset lock-in clause is NOT included in CS’s byelaws… Forgot the 'not'; makes for rather confusing reading without it... Because a façade it is, as long as an irrevocable asset lock-in clause is NOT included in CS’s byelaws…

Forgot the ‘not’; makes for rather confusing reading without it…

]]> By: Niels Smit http://www.opencouchsurfing.org/2007/08/30/501c3-can-casey-sell-out/comment-page-1/#comment-863 Niels Smit Thu, 06 Sep 2007 13:49:58 +0000 http://www.opencouchsurfing.org/2007/08/30/501c3-can-casey-sell-out/#comment-863 http://www.couchsurfing.com/group_read.html?gid=429&post=330266#post362967 As Zakor points out here, the attitude of the LT (represented in this thread by Jim whom I have been unable to catch saying anything legally relevant on the 501c3 matter) only adds to the discomfort that is eating some of us. I started out from the same position as Norbert; it is not because we don't trust you, it is because we want to ensure that nothing unforeseen can spoil the fun of 227,000 CS users. But, I am beginning to have serious doubts about Casey's integrity on this issue. Sure, I believe Jim that there is no intention to sell CouchSurfing.com anytime soon; but will Casey still be passionate about it in, say, ten years from now? And if he isn't, what but his word (not given by himself, by the way; it is only REPORTEDLY his word) do we have that CS is not to be sold? Exactly, NOTHING AT ALL. I see an LT that is unable to respond in any satisfactory way to questions raised by a member with relevant legal training; is that really because they don't want to rush things? I was willing to accept this, if it hadn't been for the complete lack of demonstrable progress in the application procedure for tax-exempt status. Apparently, they're simply not willing to proceed at all. I also see an LT that is 'not amused' to find out that users are able to shoot holes in the charitable façade they had so carefully been erecting for CS. Because a façade it is, as long as an irrevocable asset lock-in clause is included in CS's byelaws... http://www.couchsurfing.com/group_read.html?gid=429&post=330266#post362967

As Zakor points out here, the attitude of the LT (represented in this thread by Jim whom I have been unable to catch saying anything legally relevant on the 501c3 matter) only adds to the discomfort that is eating some of us.

I started out from the same position as Norbert; it is not because we don’t trust you, it is because we want to ensure that nothing unforeseen can spoil the fun of 227,000 CS users.

But, I am beginning to have serious doubts about Casey’s integrity on this issue. Sure, I believe Jim that there is no intention to sell CouchSurfing.com anytime soon; but will Casey still be passionate about it in, say, ten years from now? And if he isn’t, what but his word (not given by himself, by the way; it is only REPORTEDLY his word) do we have that CS is not to be sold? Exactly, NOTHING AT ALL.

I see an LT that is unable to respond in any satisfactory way to questions raised by a member with relevant legal training; is that really because they don’t want to rush things? I was willing to accept this, if it hadn’t been for the complete lack of demonstrable progress in the application procedure for tax-exempt status. Apparently, they’re simply not willing to proceed at all.

I also see an LT that is ‘not amused’ to find out that users are able to shoot holes in the charitable façade they had so carefully been erecting for CS. Because a façade it is, as long as an irrevocable asset lock-in clause is included in CS’s byelaws…

]]> By: Wikivoyage at Guaka’s Life http://www.opencouchsurfing.org/2007/08/30/501c3-can-casey-sell-out/comment-page-1/#comment-828 Wikivoyage at Guaka’s Life Mon, 03 Sep 2007 16:55:17 +0000 http://www.opencouchsurfing.org/2007/08/30/501c3-can-casey-sell-out/#comment-828 [...] for a long time now. I was not too worried when Wikitravel was bought by Internet Brands (which has already shown interest in buying CouchSurfing). But I have been annoyed by the lack of database dumps at Wikitravel for a long time now. So I was [...] [...] for a long time now. I was not too worried when Wikitravel was bought by Internet Brands (which has already shown interest in buying CouchSurfing). But I have been annoyed by the lack of database dumps at Wikitravel for a long time now. So I was [...]

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