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	<title>Comments on: The beginning of the end of CS 2.0</title>
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	<description>The campaign for a truly open CouchSurfing organisation</description>
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		<title>By: Americans don&#8217;t like to walk &#171; Robino Around The World in A&#8217;dam</title>
		<link>http://www.opencouchsurfing.org/2007/08/23/the-beginning-of-the-end-of-cs-20/comment-page-1/#comment-52932</link>
		<dc:creator>Americans don&#8217;t like to walk &#171; Robino Around The World in A&#8217;dam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 22:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] John gave me lots of insights on the birth and death of CS 2.0, the Heartbeat Collective gave me a lot of inspiration for projects and ideas, adding more roots to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] John gave me lots of insights on the birth and death of CS 2.0, the Heartbeat Collective gave me a lot of inspiration for projects and ideas, adding more roots to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: So long, and thanks for the fish at OpenCouchSurfing.org</title>
		<link>http://www.opencouchsurfing.org/2007/08/23/the-beginning-of-the-end-of-cs-20/comment-page-1/#comment-1270</link>
		<dc:creator>So long, and thanks for the fish at OpenCouchSurfing.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 15:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] they were ready to take CS to the next level, to decentralize (7) along with the mission crafted up after the big crash of 2006 (7, 8 ) to create a better world, one couch at a time. No, it was the attitudes of the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] they were ready to take CS to the next level, to decentralize (7) along with the mission crafted up after the big crash of 2006 (7, 8 ) to create a better world, one couch at a time. No, it was the attitudes of the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 10:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, somehow this made me think of the leaders&#039; reasons why CS isn&#039;t open source. Claiming &quot;open source is too insecure&quot;[0,1] - but think of what would happen if a similar crash would ever happen again: Community would have no rights over the code, or even access to their own data, should the code owner, the CS corporation choose not to revive the servers on their own.

Isn&#039;t this total negligence of the community? If no other good came from the crash (CS 2.0 being all but buried now), it at least showed (me personally and probably quite a few others as well) the community IS there, and WANTS to be there, regardless of who runs the code. 

(I was observing the events of the week after the crash, and whoever I had contact with could not believe CS was gone, and would have done just about whatever it took to get it up and running again, even if it meant starting from scratch, and even without the code provided by Casey)

One more thumbs up for open source...

[0] http://docs.google.com/View?docid=dctjjf4h_11c572h4&amp;pli=1
        (the original)
[1] http://www.opencouchsurfing.org/wiki/Why_CouchSurfing_Has_Chosen_Not_to_Use_Open_Source_Software
        (the backup)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, somehow this made me think of the leaders&#8217; reasons why CS isn&#8217;t open source. Claiming &#8220;open source is too insecure&#8221;[0,1] &#8211; but think of what would happen if a similar crash would ever happen again: Community would have no rights over the code, or even access to their own data, should the code owner, the CS corporation choose not to revive the servers on their own.</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t this total negligence of the community? If no other good came from the crash (CS 2.0 being all but buried now), it at least showed (me personally and probably quite a few others as well) the community IS there, and WANTS to be there, regardless of who runs the code. </p>
<p>(I was observing the events of the week after the crash, and whoever I had contact with could not believe CS was gone, and would have done just about whatever it took to get it up and running again, even if it meant starting from scratch, and even without the code provided by Casey)</p>
<p>One more thumbs up for open source&#8230;</p>
<p>[0] <a href="http://docs.google.com/View?docid=dctjjf4h_11c572h4&#038;pli=1" rel="nofollow">http://docs.google.com/View?docid=dctjjf4h_11c572h4&#038;pli=1</a><br />
        (the original)<br />
[1] <a href="http://www.opencouchsurfing.org/wiki/Why_CouchSurfing_Has_Chosen_Not_to_Use_Open_Source_Software" rel="nofollow">http://www.opencouchsurfing.org/wiki/Why_CouchSurfing_Has_Chosen_Not_to_Use_Open_Source_Software</a><br />
        (the backup)</p>
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		<title>By: azarethroy</title>
		<link>http://www.opencouchsurfing.org/2007/08/23/the-beginning-of-the-end-of-cs-20/comment-page-1/#comment-759</link>
		<dc:creator>azarethroy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 00:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey John,

Thanks for giving us this background history. Seems like CouchSurfing has (inadvertently) turned out to be a social experiment in many ways. 

Hopefully with BeWelcome, we will be able to learn from the mistakes of CouchSurfing and Hospitality Club.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey John,</p>
<p>Thanks for giving us this background history. Seems like CouchSurfing has (inadvertently) turned out to be a social experiment in many ways. </p>
<p>Hopefully with BeWelcome, we will be able to learn from the mistakes of CouchSurfing and Hospitality Club.</p>
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